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Letters to the Editor ^eCone^w.:Feb^.13:.l991A. Former students send word on war We just received a Daily Col¬ legian in Saudi Arabia today, and read many artjclesconcem- ingrhePersianGulf. Wewould like to share pur concern over this matter also. After being stationed here for over twoand one half months, it is now 14 Jan. 91, theday before thedead- line for Saddam to leave Ku¬ wait. We're sitting here in our tent, next toa small heater, with two candles for lights. Ifs difficult to sleep, especially tonight, knowing the threat of war is fast approaching and we're in the middle of it. Although we don't agree with the President's decision to use force, it is our duty to carry out any orders he gives. We support the demonstra¬ tors and protesters, but they must realize aggression cannot go unanswered. We feel strongly that this situation will not rum into another Vietman, if war should break out. the American people will not al¬ low that to happen, we pray- We hope, upon our return, that we will not be treated the same way the Vietnam vets were treated when they returned home. We're part of a multi¬ national force, which means we're not in this alone. The President has support from many countries, and he should also have the support from his own people. We may not like living under these dreadful conditions, or feeling the threat of being killed, but we're over here, and will serve as long as we're needed. We were both Fresno State students, and enrolled in the ROTC Program. We plan on continuing with our military training upon our return. Our experience, which we've gained from this crisis, will help us tre¬ mendously in beingfuture lead¬ ers whether itbecivilian or mili- tary. On the lighter side — Saudi Arabia isnota hot vacationspot, especially now. For all of us beer drinkers, Saudi Arabia isa non-alcoholic country. Ha! You're better off staying at The Bucket! As for driving tech¬ niques, the natives are badlyin need of some drivers training. Accidents are very frequent. And for those of you who think it doesn't rain here or isalways hot; wrong answer. We're huddled by a stove in a leaky tent; we have to move our cots to dodge the drops. There are some that have it worse and there are some who have it better, but we're thankful we have each other. Take care Fresno State, We'll be back soon! Sgt Dana F. Fidinger Sgt Theresa M. Howland Collegian casts haze over fraternity issues Bad news is al way s fron t page newsit seems. There have been exceptions but, for the most part, this remains to be true. Over the past week we have had two articles about fraterni¬ ties on the front page of The Collegian. Both were written to inform you,thereader,aboutproblems that two different houses have had recently. I appreciate the news the Collegian offers us. It gives us a view into our lives around campus and provides us with information that we all should know. Why is it though, that The Collegian, like most newspa¬ pers, fails to give as much good news as it does bad. You don't often see that the fraternities give money tocharities, time to the (American) Lung Associa¬ tion, or organize blood contri¬ butions to the Red Cross. These are just a few of the donations that the fraternities provide. Please don't get me wrong, I know that bad news sells. I would just like to see more ar¬ ticles written that do not refer to fraternities as drunk, wom¬ anizing, hazing groups of men. In case you didn't know, there are good things thatcome from these fraternal organizations. These include job opportuni- ties, a competitive attitude, and friendships that last a lifetime. Job opportuni ties come from a strong national chapter. Two of the houses on camus each have over 400,000 members internationally. This provides a great opportunity for mem¬ bers in the job-seeking world. The members also develop a strong, competitive attitude. This can be attributed to rival¬ ries between the houses. This rivalry can be seen from the playing field to the unity of individual houses. Each house is always striving to better it¬ self in the local fraternity lime¬ light. One of the things I noticed in my first encounter with the fraternities is the brotherhood. I see members return from fi ve to40 years after graduation and offer themselvesand their serv¬ ices to their houses. It shows me that brotherhood does in¬ deed last a lifetime. Some of my closest friends have been de¬ veloped in the fraternity and I know that these relationships will last forever. I hope this will shed a bit more light onto what fraterni¬ ties are and what they hope to achieve. After reading this let¬ ter, though, there are so many things thatlhave not mentioned that make fraternities great. It has been a wonderful experi¬ ence so far for me and despite all the bad press, I don't regret it a bit. Dean "Dino" Russo 9ArflrvaroN Tickets too expensive for students This is regarding the letter to the editor that was published on Fcb.l2about basketball tick¬ ets. Perhaps Mr. Avedesian has forgotton what it is like to live on a college budget. Most stu¬ dents are scrounging for every dollar they have so they can afford to buy things far more necessary than recreation, like food, housing and education. It costs more than just the $85 to go to the games when you include the cost of parking, gas and refreshments. That may be a drop in ttie bucket to most people, but to college students that is a hell of a lot of money. I commend Mr. Avedesian's loyalty to FSU athletics. But considering he pays $1,000 for his tickets, he shouldn't com¬ pare his budget to mine. 1 love basketball, but I live four hoursaway and shouldn't be expected todrivefourhours to see NW [North West] Louisi¬ ana play. I agree some games need to bo played during the break, but two were played Thanksgiving, and one was played the last day of the se¬ mester. Tha t is 1 Ogames played when studentsareoutof school. Those games included the two best scheduled games of theyearforFresnoState:UNLV and New Mexico State. Last year UNLV and UCLA played during Christmas break in Fresno. The reason tha t student attendance doesn't change during Christmas break is be¬ cause those that have season tickets live in Fresno, and there are nosinglc game student tick¬ ets. Regarding single game tick¬ ets: I commend the ASI for trying to do the right thing, but that isn't the ASI's job (what is?). It is the job of the athletic department to sell tickets to students. I've never heard of a school that does not sell single game tickets tostudentsata discount. At San Jose State, the tickets cost $5 each, and they have a real small arena. Weber State and UCSB both don't charge students to go to games and UCSB made the NCAA tourna¬ ment last year. Students are not fair-weather fans! Go to any Fresno State baseball game and you will find this out, or ask the opposing third baseman. The third ■base side is always the loudest at Bciden Field. At $25 for season tickets, the students are given a bargain and they take advan¬ tage of the deal. If basketball tickets where that reasonably priced for stu¬ dents they would come to games, too. If we combined an on-campus arena with reason¬ able prices for tickets, who knows? Perhaps some day we could sound as loud as Duke's Cameron IndoorStadium. Mark Holtebeck What are protesters out to prove? Hell of a war we're in insn't it?So many questionsare being asked. Why are we there? Are we doing the right thing? Should we kill Saddam Hussein? I have my own an¬ swers, as does everyone else, to these question; bu t, there is one thing that puzzles me — these demonstrators. What are they trying to say? One group supports Bush, the war and the troops; another supports the troops, but not the war. Still another groupdoesn't support the troops or the war. One group hates everyone and one group is just upset that women can't fly fighter planes. My question is simply this: What are they trying to prove? I realize that we all have the freedom of speech and assem¬ bly, but what do these people think they're accomplishing? George Bush and Saddam Hussein aren't going to tune in toCNN, see the demonstrators, and say, "Hey, we had better call this thing off!" The way 1 see it, the only thing they arc accomplishing is to piss off everybody else and start a domestic war of their own (i.e. the Oakland Bay Bridge block¬ ers). My gut feeling (sorry, Demo¬ crats) is that we should all just sit back, drink a few beers to¬ gether, and let George, Dan, Colin, and Norman handle our "Mid-East Conflict." Woody Laughnan III Bin removal a bad end to a good idea I recently read the informa¬ tion about the removal of the recycling bins. I was surprised when confronted with the rea¬ soning involved with this re¬ moval decision. I do not feel tha t aesthetics isa good enough justification for this act. I sug¬ gest that the campus planning committee enroll in Dr. Morgan's Environmental Pol¬ lution course. I believe they would change their minds. I feel sorry for the CSUF Ecology Society, the track club and Pepsi Co., beca use they pu t in a great effort to initiate this program. (1 am not involved with any of these groups.) A good faith effort was handled very rudely by the administra¬ tion. They did a quick, almost sneaky, move while the major¬ ity of students were away over the holidays. Ihopethatacompromisecan be reached so that this great idea of a recycling effort must begin without delay. Just when we thought we misplaced trash containers were a problem, along comes the iron fist of the Campus Planning Committee. Gary Waugaman
Object Description
Title | 1991_02 The Daily Collegian February 1991 |
Alternative Title | Daily Collegian (California State University, Fresno) |
Publisher | Associated Students of Fresno State, Fresno, Calif. |
Publication Date | 1991 |
Description | Daily (except weedends) during the school year. Microfilm. Palo Alto, Calif.: BMI Library Microfilms, 1986- microfilm reels; 35 mm. Vol.1, no.1 (Feb 8, 1922)- |
Subject | California State University, Fresno -- Periodicals. |
Contributors | Associated Students of Fresno State. |
Coverage | Vol.1 no.1 (Feb 8, 1922)- to present |
Format | Microfilm reels, 35 mm. |
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Language | eng |
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Title | February 13, 1991, Page 2 |
Alternative Title | Daily Collegian (California State University, Fresno) |
Publisher | Associated Students of Fresno State, Fresno, Calif. |
Publication Date | 1991 |
Description | Daily (except weedends) during the school year. Microfilm. Palo Alto, Calif.: BMI Library Microfilms, 1986- microfilm reels; 35 mm. Vol.1, no.1 (Feb 8, 1922)- |
Subject | California State University, Fresno -- Periodicals. |
Contributors | Associated Students of Fresno State. |
Coverage | Vol.1 no.1 (Feb 8, 1922)- to present |
Format | Microfilm reels, 35 mm. |
Technical Information | Scanned at 600 dpi; TIFF; Microfilm ScanPro 2000 "E-image data" |
Language | eng |
Full-Text-Search | Letters to the Editor ^eCone^w.:Feb^.13:.l991A. Former students send word on war We just received a Daily Col¬ legian in Saudi Arabia today, and read many artjclesconcem- ingrhePersianGulf. Wewould like to share pur concern over this matter also. After being stationed here for over twoand one half months, it is now 14 Jan. 91, theday before thedead- line for Saddam to leave Ku¬ wait. We're sitting here in our tent, next toa small heater, with two candles for lights. Ifs difficult to sleep, especially tonight, knowing the threat of war is fast approaching and we're in the middle of it. Although we don't agree with the President's decision to use force, it is our duty to carry out any orders he gives. We support the demonstra¬ tors and protesters, but they must realize aggression cannot go unanswered. We feel strongly that this situation will not rum into another Vietman, if war should break out. the American people will not al¬ low that to happen, we pray- We hope, upon our return, that we will not be treated the same way the Vietnam vets were treated when they returned home. We're part of a multi¬ national force, which means we're not in this alone. The President has support from many countries, and he should also have the support from his own people. We may not like living under these dreadful conditions, or feeling the threat of being killed, but we're over here, and will serve as long as we're needed. We were both Fresno State students, and enrolled in the ROTC Program. We plan on continuing with our military training upon our return. Our experience, which we've gained from this crisis, will help us tre¬ mendously in beingfuture lead¬ ers whether itbecivilian or mili- tary. On the lighter side — Saudi Arabia isnota hot vacationspot, especially now. For all of us beer drinkers, Saudi Arabia isa non-alcoholic country. Ha! You're better off staying at The Bucket! As for driving tech¬ niques, the natives are badlyin need of some drivers training. Accidents are very frequent. And for those of you who think it doesn't rain here or isalways hot; wrong answer. We're huddled by a stove in a leaky tent; we have to move our cots to dodge the drops. There are some that have it worse and there are some who have it better, but we're thankful we have each other. Take care Fresno State, We'll be back soon! Sgt Dana F. Fidinger Sgt Theresa M. Howland Collegian casts haze over fraternity issues Bad news is al way s fron t page newsit seems. There have been exceptions but, for the most part, this remains to be true. Over the past week we have had two articles about fraterni¬ ties on the front page of The Collegian. Both were written to inform you,thereader,aboutproblems that two different houses have had recently. I appreciate the news the Collegian offers us. It gives us a view into our lives around campus and provides us with information that we all should know. Why is it though, that The Collegian, like most newspa¬ pers, fails to give as much good news as it does bad. You don't often see that the fraternities give money tocharities, time to the (American) Lung Associa¬ tion, or organize blood contri¬ butions to the Red Cross. These are just a few of the donations that the fraternities provide. Please don't get me wrong, I know that bad news sells. I would just like to see more ar¬ ticles written that do not refer to fraternities as drunk, wom¬ anizing, hazing groups of men. In case you didn't know, there are good things thatcome from these fraternal organizations. These include job opportuni- ties, a competitive attitude, and friendships that last a lifetime. Job opportuni ties come from a strong national chapter. Two of the houses on camus each have over 400,000 members internationally. This provides a great opportunity for mem¬ bers in the job-seeking world. The members also develop a strong, competitive attitude. This can be attributed to rival¬ ries between the houses. This rivalry can be seen from the playing field to the unity of individual houses. Each house is always striving to better it¬ self in the local fraternity lime¬ light. One of the things I noticed in my first encounter with the fraternities is the brotherhood. I see members return from fi ve to40 years after graduation and offer themselvesand their serv¬ ices to their houses. It shows me that brotherhood does in¬ deed last a lifetime. Some of my closest friends have been de¬ veloped in the fraternity and I know that these relationships will last forever. I hope this will shed a bit more light onto what fraterni¬ ties are and what they hope to achieve. After reading this let¬ ter, though, there are so many things thatlhave not mentioned that make fraternities great. It has been a wonderful experi¬ ence so far for me and despite all the bad press, I don't regret it a bit. Dean "Dino" Russo 9ArflrvaroN Tickets too expensive for students This is regarding the letter to the editor that was published on Fcb.l2about basketball tick¬ ets. Perhaps Mr. Avedesian has forgotton what it is like to live on a college budget. Most stu¬ dents are scrounging for every dollar they have so they can afford to buy things far more necessary than recreation, like food, housing and education. It costs more than just the $85 to go to the games when you include the cost of parking, gas and refreshments. That may be a drop in ttie bucket to most people, but to college students that is a hell of a lot of money. I commend Mr. Avedesian's loyalty to FSU athletics. But considering he pays $1,000 for his tickets, he shouldn't com¬ pare his budget to mine. 1 love basketball, but I live four hoursaway and shouldn't be expected todrivefourhours to see NW [North West] Louisi¬ ana play. I agree some games need to bo played during the break, but two were played Thanksgiving, and one was played the last day of the se¬ mester. Tha t is 1 Ogames played when studentsareoutof school. Those games included the two best scheduled games of theyearforFresnoState:UNLV and New Mexico State. Last year UNLV and UCLA played during Christmas break in Fresno. The reason tha t student attendance doesn't change during Christmas break is be¬ cause those that have season tickets live in Fresno, and there are nosinglc game student tick¬ ets. Regarding single game tick¬ ets: I commend the ASI for trying to do the right thing, but that isn't the ASI's job (what is?). It is the job of the athletic department to sell tickets to students. I've never heard of a school that does not sell single game tickets tostudentsata discount. At San Jose State, the tickets cost $5 each, and they have a real small arena. Weber State and UCSB both don't charge students to go to games and UCSB made the NCAA tourna¬ ment last year. Students are not fair-weather fans! Go to any Fresno State baseball game and you will find this out, or ask the opposing third baseman. The third ■base side is always the loudest at Bciden Field. At $25 for season tickets, the students are given a bargain and they take advan¬ tage of the deal. If basketball tickets where that reasonably priced for stu¬ dents they would come to games, too. If we combined an on-campus arena with reason¬ able prices for tickets, who knows? Perhaps some day we could sound as loud as Duke's Cameron IndoorStadium. Mark Holtebeck What are protesters out to prove? Hell of a war we're in insn't it?So many questionsare being asked. Why are we there? Are we doing the right thing? Should we kill Saddam Hussein? I have my own an¬ swers, as does everyone else, to these question; bu t, there is one thing that puzzles me — these demonstrators. What are they trying to say? One group supports Bush, the war and the troops; another supports the troops, but not the war. Still another groupdoesn't support the troops or the war. One group hates everyone and one group is just upset that women can't fly fighter planes. My question is simply this: What are they trying to prove? I realize that we all have the freedom of speech and assem¬ bly, but what do these people think they're accomplishing? George Bush and Saddam Hussein aren't going to tune in toCNN, see the demonstrators, and say, "Hey, we had better call this thing off!" The way 1 see it, the only thing they arc accomplishing is to piss off everybody else and start a domestic war of their own (i.e. the Oakland Bay Bridge block¬ ers). My gut feeling (sorry, Demo¬ crats) is that we should all just sit back, drink a few beers to¬ gether, and let George, Dan, Colin, and Norman handle our "Mid-East Conflict." Woody Laughnan III Bin removal a bad end to a good idea I recently read the informa¬ tion about the removal of the recycling bins. I was surprised when confronted with the rea¬ soning involved with this re¬ moval decision. I do not feel tha t aesthetics isa good enough justification for this act. I sug¬ gest that the campus planning committee enroll in Dr. Morgan's Environmental Pol¬ lution course. I believe they would change their minds. I feel sorry for the CSUF Ecology Society, the track club and Pepsi Co., beca use they pu t in a great effort to initiate this program. (1 am not involved with any of these groups.) A good faith effort was handled very rudely by the administra¬ tion. They did a quick, almost sneaky, move while the major¬ ity of students were away over the holidays. Ihopethatacompromisecan be reached so that this great idea of a recycling effort must begin without delay. Just when we thought we misplaced trash containers were a problem, along comes the iron fist of the Campus Planning Committee. Gary Waugaman |